Betty Bicker-Robinson remembers the villagers of Cobham 1938-40

Betty Bicker-Robinson (nee King) was a young girl when she moved to Cobham in 1938 but has managed to recall, not only a vast majority of the occupants but also occupations of people who lived in the village at that time. Many thanks to Betty for all the work that she has put into compiling the following list of people who lived in Cobham from 1938-1940.

Mrs Hoppe, lacemaker, of no. 39 The Street (image supplied by Paul Kingsman)

 

HOUSE NO. HOUSE NAME OCCUPANTS NOTES
The Street (South side)
1 to 7 n/a n/a Properties built since 1940
9 Robins Wood (opposite The Ship) Mr & Mrs Butler Vicar of Cobham Church
11 to 19 n/a n/a Properties built since 1940
Sunalta Tom & Nan Wilson n/a
(Lawrence Drive not built at this time)
The Exchange n/a n/a
21 The Mill Café tea rooms (The Granary House) Mr & Mrs Bean Upstairs room for weddings and magic lanterns
23 The Bakery Mr & Mrs Bean Bakers was a building at the back of no. 23
25 n/a Mrs Robinson Cobham Hall washing in garden shed
27 n/a Mr & Mrs Sanderson & daughters Iris & Doreen n/a
29 The Murrells Lou & Betty Ingram Groom for Jacksons Farm
31 n/a Mr & Mrs Lovelace & children Robert & ? n/a
33 The White House Mrs Haig n/a
35 n/a Mr & Mrs Mayhew & daughter Phyllis n/a
37 n/a Occupants unknown n/a
39 The Old Curiosity Shop Mrs Hoppe Lacemaker
41 n/a Ernie & Mrs Wooddridge & son Ernie n/a
43 n/a This cottage was let to woodmen who were not permanent tenants n/a
45 Little Dortitt Café Mr & Mrs Wood & daughter Doris Café owners
47 n/a Occupants unknown n/a
49 Through the gate and behind the café Doctor Hasler Doctor’s surgery
51 n/a Mr & Mrs Sharman n/a
53 n/a Alexander (aka Harry) & Lilian Carson-Tate Army Despatch Rider
Stonehouse Yard
55 n/a George Mungeum n/a
57 n/a Mr & Mrs Wickens & children Evan & Doreen n/a
59 n/a Miss Alice Wiffen n/a
61 n/a Mrs Shiregold  and daughters Jessie & Connie n/a
63 n/a Mr Lusher n/a
The Street (South side continued)
The Old Parsonage n/a n/a
1 The Terrace George & Mrs Ford & son George George worked on English’s farm
2 The Terrace Mrs Box & son Son worked in the Rectory
3 The Terrace Len & Joyce Barden & sons Leonard, David & Colin Len worked on English’s farm
4 The Terrace Mrs Austen n/a
1 Parsonage Cottage Les & Joyce Twitchett & 3 sons & a daughter Both worked on English’s farm
2 Parsonage Cottage David & Nina Harris Both worked on English’s farm
Parsonage Farm Mr & Mrs English & son Mark Farm owners
Parsonage Farm Mr Rye Farm foreman
Halfpence Lane
Halfpenny House George Beech Police Sergeant
The Firs n/a A council store shed was here at the time
Meadmore Mr Gates Ex Headmaster of Cobham Primary school
Homelea George and Mrs Skinner Bus Inspector
Ashdown Mr & Mrs Alice Horton School Mistress
Rose Cottage Jack & Mrs Walker and children Ted, Jack, Joan (twins) Isobel & May Jack played cricket for Kent
The Street (North side)
6 Forge Cottage Mrs Nan Pierce (Nee Wood – sister of the Wood brothers) n/a
8 Forge Cottage Mr & Mrs Arthur Wood (aka Sid);Mr & Mrs Frank Wood Owned and worked in the forge
10 Mill Farm House Archie & Mrs Morris Dealt with milk (probably at the depot)
12 n/a n/a Property built since 1940; A rose garden at the time
14 The Ship Inn Tom Trent Licensee of The Ship Inn
16 n/a Mr & Mrs Lusher Mrs Lusher was school caretaker
18 Cobham school buildings Horace Burrow Headmaster – taught senior pupils
20 n/a Mr & Mrs Broad & daughter Mary n/a
22 n/a Mrs Street n/a
22 n/a George Mungeum (aka the old man) Had a rose garden
24 n/a Mr & Mrs Spells Village policeman
26 n/a Mr & Mrs Hawkes & children Rosemary & Jack n/a
28 One up, one down, at rear of Wisteria Cottage Miss Backhouse Nurse
30 Wisteria Cottage George & Mrs Morris & children  George & Violet Son cycled deliveries for Gander’s shop, daughter looked after retired parents
7 (old numbering) n/a Mrs Emma King & daughter Betty (youngest of 10) Now demolished
6 (old numbering) n/a Miss Dol Russell Worked in Mrs Rose’s guest house; Now demolished
5 (old numbering) n/a Mrs Downe & son Jack Now demolished
4 (old numbering) n/a Mrs Emily Knight & children Kenneth, Doris & Rene Now demolished
32 n/a n/a This was the store room for George Ganders shop at the time
34 n/a n/a Propery built since 1940
36 n/a n/a This was not a separate address at the time
38 Gander’s shop George & Mrs Gander & sons Jack & Eric General stores
40 The Darnley Arms Mrs James & daughters Betty & Kay Licencee of The Darnley Arms
42 n/a Occupant unknown n/a
44 n/a Bill Fenner Played the trumpet in Ivy Benson Band
46 Mr Fenner (Bill’s brother) n/a n/a
48 Bert & Ciss Baker & children Bert, Peggy & Jean Sweet shop owners
50 n/a Ted & Mrs Ralph & children David, Leonard, Colin, Pauline & Terence Owners of coal business
52 n/a Miss Doris Usher Turned her front room into a café in WW11
54 The Leather Bottle n/a n/a
56 n/a The staff from the Leather Bottle n/a
58 2 Crokers Place Doctor & Mrs Horron Ships Doctor?
60 1 Crokers Place Occupants unknown n/a
Meadow House Mr Arnold (may have been an artist)
2 Meadow Cottages The four Parker sisters n/a
1 Meadow Cottage Laurie Austin; George & Mrs Ford & son George Verger; George worked on English’s farm
Battle Street (East side)
3 n/a Mr & Mrs Sands & daughters Sheila & Jean n/a
4 n/a Mr & Mrs Beckham & sons Ronald, Albert, Norman & Leslie n/a
7 n/a Mr & Mrs Day n/a
8 n/a Mr & Mrs Barden & sons David, Leonard & Colin n/a
Battle Street (West side)
n/a Two Oast Houses Bill & Rose Dray & children Peggy & Teddy Were Oast Houses for Pyes Farm at the time
1 & 2 n/a Mr & Mrs Austen & sons Oscar & Tom Worked on Pyes farm now Jeskyns
n/a Holly Lodge Mrs Brady n/a
Battle Street (North end, before Sarcen Close was built)
5 n/a Laurie & Joyce Austen & 2 daughters n/a
The Street (North side continued)
Green Hedges Miss Grace Wood Church organist
1 Owletts Cottages Mr & Mrs Allen & son (? name) Both worked in George Gander’s shop
2 Owletts Cottages Miss Finlay Sunday school teacher
4 Owletts Cottages Fred & Phyllis Jones & daughters Phyllis & Anne Cattleman
5 Owletts Cottages Miss Violet Barron n/a

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Finally we can announce…First evidence for Julius Caesar’s invasion of Britain

For the past three years we have been involved with the work at Ebbsfleet, Thanet, to find evidence for Julius Caesar’s first landing in Britain.

The television show ‘Digging for Britain’ aired on BBC Four last night and explored the excavation, its findings and the implications for history. For more details please click on the links below:

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Special finds from Cobham Big Dig 2017

Medallion – Band for Hope

   

Discovered:- Pump Reservoir

The Band of Hope was first proposed by Rev. Jabez Tunnicliff, who was a Baptist Minister in Leeds, following the death in June 1847 of a young man whose life was cut short by alcohol. While working in Leeds, Tunnicliff had become an advocate for total abstinence from alcohol. In the autumn of 1847, with the help of other temperance workers, the Band of Hope was founded. Its objective was to teach children the importance and principles of sobriety and teetotalism. In 1855, a national organisation was formed amidst an explosion of Band of Hope work. Meetings were held in churches throughout the UK and included Christian teaching.

Source: Wikipedia

Screw top – Bristol

Powell’s and another firm, Price, were major makers of stoneware bottles and other stoneware items. Clay pipes, for smoking tobacco, were made from at least 1617 until 1921. There were also chimney pots, flower pots and sanitary wares. By the time of Queen Victoria’s death Powell’s were the second largest manufacturer of stoneware bottles in the country. They specialised in ginger beer bottles.

In 1906 the company merged with William Powell & Sons to become Price, Powell & Co.  The workshop in Redcliffe was blitzed during the war and the company never traded again.

  

Source: brizzlebornandbred

Token – 1795

 

Discovered:- Darnley Arms

Obverse: Helmeted bust of a bearded knight (Sir Bevois of Hampton) to the right.
Reverse: A shield of a lion rampant on a ermine background. Lettering around, date above.

Sir Bevois of Hampton seems to be a popular figure to have on obverse of a Halfpenny Tokens around the time. The reverse often depicts a shield of some description.

Sir Bevois of Hampton (alt Bevis of Southampton – c1324) is a romantic hero whose exploits include rescuing damsels in distress, fighting villains, dragons, giants etc. His adventures take him across Britain, Europe and the Near East.

Sources: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces80806.html ; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bevis_of_Hampton

Royal Navy Button

Discovered:- Pump Reservoir

Royal Navy officers button worn during the latter part of Queen Victoria’s Reign – 1891 to 1901.

The crown represented on Naval buttons between 1891-1901 was the Queen Victoria’s Diamond Crown (1870), worn by Her Majesty during her reign (1837-1901). For the coronation of King Edward VII (1901-1910) was crowned using the Imperial State Crown. i.e. a crown that is more rounded in shape.

Source: http://www.colchestertreasurehunting.co.uk/navy%20buttons.htm

Button – West Kent Yeomanry Cavalry 1794 – 1827

 

Discovered:- 5 Sarsens Close

Under threat of invasion by the French Revolutionary government from 1793, and with insufficient military forces to repulse such an attack, the British government under William Pitt the Younger decided in 1794 to increase the Militia and to form corps of volunteers for the defence of the country. The mounted arm of the volunteers became known as the “Gentlemen and Yeomanry Cavalry”. In 1827 the government disbanded the Yeomanry Regiments in those districts where they had not been mobilised in the previous 10 years. The Kent Regiment was stood down and their equipment returned to the regular army. In 1830 the West Kent Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry was reformed and in 1864 the regiment was awarded the title “Queen’s Own” and became known as the West Kent Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry (Queen’s Own).

The Cobham Yeomanry was set up in 1794 and from 1838 it existed as a unit within the West Kent Yeomanry Cavalry. In 1907 the Territorial Army (TA) was formed and the system of the yeomanry ended. The Cobham Yeomanry were then fully absorbed into the West Kent Yeomanry.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Own_West_Kent_Yeomanry ; https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=West%20Kent%20Yeomanry%20(Queen’s%20Own)&item_type=topic ; Medway Archives – U565/023-025  1821-1905

(Article by Don Blackburn, updated March 2020.)

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Betty Grayland: memories of Shorne Woods

Early days

I was six weeks old in 1928 when we moved to Shorne, my father, Albert Swaisland, worked for the village baker and we lived on the premises, the bakery was at the rear of the shop and was where No. 17 The Street now is. We moved to Pear Tree Lane in 1945 to run a dairy farm after he had to leave the bakers due to ill health caused by the accumulated damage that working with flour had done.

I started school at the age of five, the school was built in 1872. There were seven boys living next door to us and I soon became one of their ‘gang’ and spent many hours exploring in the woods. The Shorne/Ifield Road side of the woods was very dense. The Carriage Way came out of the woods next to Baynards Cottage at Hartshill on that road. The wheel ruts were still visible when we used to go there. It used to go all the way to Brewers Gate at one time but that was before the clay extraction took place.

Shorne School, Mill Hill Lane

Shorne School, Mill Hill Lane

I can remember being taken to see Randall Manor in the late 1930’s, I think this was possibly at Lord Darnley’s invitation as he was a School Governor and visited the school regularly, especially for celebration days and PE demonstrations, this finished after the war started. During the war  we had to share the school with the evacuees which meant we only went for half days, mornings one week and afternoons the next.

The ‘Crows Nest’ was built by Lady Darnley near Harts Hill, which had a clear view of the river, so that she could see her son, Ivo Bligh, set sail from Tilbury on his way to Australia to play cricket for the ‘Ashes’.

The army moves in

The army moved into Shorne in 1941, first the Royal Artillery arrived and then the Durham Light Infantry, together they commandeered the village. Several houses were taken over by the army, The Woodlands and Munilly in Woodlands Lane and also some houses in Pondsfield Lane that had just been built and were still empty were used by both Canadian and British Army officers. The brick road into the woods, from Woodlands Lane, was put down by the army, it went quite a way into the woods but I don’t know how far as we were never allowed in there. The concrete road into the woods from Brewers Road was laid there by the clay works people.

The army boys became the life and soul of the village holding dances in the village hall and their band played Sunday mornings, near the Rose & Crown, after church service. On one Sunday morning their mascot, a big white goat escaped and chased my mother but luckily it didn’t catch her. Our house was always open house for all the service men, my father would often bring men back with him for supper after he had been to the pub.

The NAAFI was in a tent on ‘The Common’, we were taken there for film shows and given bars of chocolate by the soldiers. One night some soldiers dared me to go round the churchyard, they didn’t think I would do it but when I did they gave me a pound for doing it.

Apart the chocolate given to us by the soldiers we were also occasionally given venison by the village policeman, I think he must have been the local poacher, or at least known who it was and kept quiet for some of his ill gotten gains.

A really large area of the woods along both sides of Brewers Road as well as on the west side of Woodland Lane was full of both big brown bell and ridge tents, I’ve always understood that there may have been up to 500 soldiers living in the camp but I can’t be sure of the figure.

There weren’t many bombs that landed in Shorne but one fell in Brewers Road and one by the school in Mill Hill Lane.  There wasn’t any restriction on local travel but when we went to Strood we had to show our Identity Cards as there was a barrier across the road at the Coach  & Horses pub at the top of Strood Hill.

There was a searchlight on Mill Hill where there is still an indentation in the ground where it was and the base for the machine gun is also still there. There was also mobile anti-aircraft guns mounted on the back of lorries parked by the Rose & Crown that would be used where they were needed when there was an air raid on, the Mill Hill searchlight would show them where the planes were.

We slept in the cellar of the bakery shop during the war, we did have a Morrison shelter but that filled an entire room and my father said we weren’t going to have that and that we would sleep on the cellar. We had mattresses on the boxes of emergency rations that were stored in the cellar in case of the village being cut off. There were usually about 7 or 8 of us sleeping there, including 3 or 4 evacuees from Strood. I’m not sure but I think it would have been the Air Raid warden’s responsibility to hand out the rations if the occasion arose but luckily they were never needed.

Both my father and husband were in the Home Guard and their duties were to guard the radio stations at both Boghurst Cottage and Ashenbank Wood. I can remember the radio tower at Boghurst Cottage, it looked very much like an electricity pylon with antennae on the top. I remember it being quite tall as it could be seen above the tops of the tallest trees. The concrete radio station building at Boghurst Cottage was used as a scout hut after the war; it wasn’t very big, perhaps 12 feet long and 10 feet wide. It was eventually pulled down when Brewers Road was re-routed.

Photograph of the Shorne Home Guard

Names in the photo above include:

???        M.Carcary     ???        R.Bone  H.Wallace  D.Grayland   Kavanagh

???        A.Swaisland  S.Clark  C.Chandler  D.Carcary     ???

P.Rye           S.Cooper         C.Wallace      J.Botting       C.Smith

F.Scaggs      C.Dawes         R.Miles              C.White         H.Dawes

E.Carpenter       H.Davys

[Nothing to do with any of the above but the triangle of land bounded by The Ridgeway, the track that ran from the Ridgeway to Woodlands Lane and Woodlands Lane was called ‘The Whence’, why I’ve no idea and is now known locally as ‘Common Rough’ – a whence is the name for a junction.]

1st Shorne 26th Gravesend Scout Troup c.1943

Names in the photo above include:

Victor Excell     Bob Dockrell     Reg Rootes     Ted Vaughan

Dennis Smith                                                                                            Derek Grayland

John Webb      Doug Grayland     Les Webb     Stan Excell

(As told to Trevor Bent in 2010.)

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Fort Amherst dig October 2017

We are starting work at Fort Amherst this week, running through to Saturday the 14th and then from Monday 16th to Saturday 21stOctober.

Please go straight to Fort Amherst for a 10am start. There is plenty of parking on site, through a locked gate that we will open at 10am each day! Car sharing from Shorne where possible!

Head for Fort Amherst, Khartoum Road, Chatham ME4 4UB and use the attached map to meet us at the tunnel each day! X marks the spot!

We will work 10am to 4pm days, weather willing…there are facilities on site and we are right next to Chatham town centre.

This will probably be our last excavation project of the year, so do come along, even if it is just for a visit

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